S5-EP13: One Year Later: Richard Eisenberg on the UNretired life
Debbie talks to veteran journalist and prolific writer Richard Eisenberg about his first year of unretirement: the adjustments, the travels and the meaningful work.
Debbie brings veteran journalist and prolific freelance writer Richard Eisenberg back on the podcast one year after he “unretired” from full-time work as managing editor of Next Avenue. When they spoke a year ago, he was just embarking on his new life. Today, he reflects on surprises, what he’s learned, what he’s working on, and more.
Richard defines unretirement as a mixture of paid and unpaid work, as well as the opportunity to delve into unexplored passions, travel, volunteer, and spend more time with family.
He tells Debbie that the biggest surprise so far is how challenging it has been to adjust to a wide-open schedule on his calendar. He has lots of days with a full plate but the blank days are discomfiting. Debbie suggests that he cheat and put “take a walk” or “pick up the dry cleaning” on his Apple calendar. He reveals that he much prefers a paper calendar and carries one around with him, with his appointments entered, changed, and scratched off.
He and Debbie also discuss ageism, the ethics of writing with help from AI (aka Chat GPT), and fraudulent Medicare Advantage marketing. They also talk about the increasing number of age-friendly jobs and why older workers (who value flexibility, autonomy, etc.) are NOT getting them.
This is a great conversation from a down-to-earth practitioner of the art of unretirement. You’ll find links to some of his recent articles in the show notes below. All are about issues related to retirement and aging.
Mentioned in this episode or useful:
- Richard’s bio
- Next Avenue’s Managing Editor Says Goodbye – But Not Farewell by Richard Eisenberg (Jan. 4, 2022)
- S4-EP11: Renowned Editor Richard Eisenberg on Taking Practical First Steps into “Unretirement” (Feb. 2022)
- I used Chat GPT to find work in retirement by Richard Eisenberg (July 12, 2023)
- NYU Summer Publishing Institute
- Furniture Assist (intergenerational volunteering)
- The Puzzling Gap Between How Old You Are and How Old You Think You Are by Jennifer Senior (The Atlantic, Feb. 23, 2023)
- S3-EP13: Ashton Applewhite on the Ugly Heart of Ageism
Some of Richard’s recent articles
- The New Yorker’s Adam Gopnik on the Mystery of Mastery Later in Life (Next Avenue, April 13, 2023)
- Why Aren’t Older Workers Getting Those Age-Friendly Jobs? (Next Avenue, February 2, 2023)
- Why a change of scenery can be life-changing in retirement (Market Watch, March 2, 2023)
- Aggressive Medicare Advantage marketing floods TV and mailboxes with misleading ads. The Biden administration is cracking down (Fortune, March 6, 2023)
Books he’s read and enjoyed recently:
- The Real Work: On the Mystery of Mastery by Adam Gopnik (Liveright, 2023)
- Next!: The Power of Reinvention in Life and Work by Joanne Lipman (Mariner Books, 2023)
- The Family Chao: A Novel by Lan Samantha Chang (W. W. Norton & Company, 2022)
- Breaking the Age Code: How Your Beliefs About Aging Determine How Long and Well You Live by Becca Levy, PhD (William Morrow, 2022)
- The Aftermath: The Last Days of the Baby Boom and the Future of Power in America by Phil Bump (Viking, 2023)
[B]OLDER podcast episodes about intergenerational collaboration:
- S4-EP4: Aging Options: Skylar Skikos on Intergenerational and Regenerative Communities
- S3-EP15: Encore’s Marci Alboher & Aanchal Dhar on Intergenerational Collaboration and Why It’s Important Right Now
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